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special envoy to afghanistan. his new book is called the wars of afghanistan. please welcome to the problem peter tomsen. have a seat. >> thank you. >> jon: my first question to you is simply this. really? (laughter) really? >> it's pretty big. >> jon: really? >> yeah (laughter) don't drop it on your toe. >> jon: let me ask you this, volume 2, what period of wars does this cover and how much of the amazon is now gone? (laughter) what period of wars are we dealing with her. >> actually it's six, two in the 19th century, one in the early 20th century, and the rest with the soviet invasion and afterwards. >> jon: starting in '79. >> right. >> jon: what is so alluringly invadable about-- (laughter) >> jon: afghanistan because everyone seems to want to do it they don't have oil. they don't appear to have mineral wealth, although i think they've recently discovered that. they appear to just have a tightly knit group of tribes who don't care for being invaded. >> exactly. and in our case we called it an intervention. some call it an invasion. the big, the most importa
special envoy to afghanistan. his new book is called the wars of afghanistan. please welcome to the problem peter tomsen. have a seat. >> thank you. >> jon: my first question to you is simply this. really? (laughter) really? >> it's pretty big. >> jon: really? >> yeah (laughter) don't drop it on your toe. >> jon: let me ask you this, volume 2, what period of wars does this cover and how much of the amazon is now gone? (laughter) what period of wars are we...
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we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has always been just your point. i think he was influenced by the idea that, look i'm not sure this is going to work but i'm not prepared not to the do it and see what the consequens are. i'm mo prepared to do in the this case because i've described this as a war of choice... i've described this as a war of necessity, not choice, as iq was characterized a aar choice. >> i think you're absolutely on it and what we tried to do literally in chapter 9 of this book is to describe the mind-set of obama when he was handling time and time again questions relating to afghanistan. for example, in the su
we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has...
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(laughter) but we may be leaving afghanistan within the next 50 or 60 years. (laughter) and if that occurs, what is pakistan's interest in the taliban in that, you know, what is the situation that, as you see it with our maybe pulling back a little bit? >> that's a serious issue to be considered, especially to... it will have implications on pakistan. if you quit in 2014, whatever has been declared, obviously the best strategy for the taliban or the enemy, al qaeda and taliban, is to lie low, let time pass, and then rise again. so declaring... giving a timeline, i have always been saying that it ought to be effected, what effects do we want to create? you can't have it time related because then you'll be in the hands of the enemy, i would say. and if you leave in 2014 without stabilizing afghanistan, what will happen then? we need to visualize. >> well, the problem is... the difficulty i think for america is afghanistan hasn't been stable since, i guess, hannibal. (laughter) so the idea that we could stay there... (laughter). they don't appear to want to be st
(laughter) but we may be leaving afghanistan within the next 50 or 60 years. (laughter) and if that occurs, what is pakistan's interest in the taliban in that, you know, what is the situation that, as you see it with our maybe pulling back a little bit? >> that's a serious issue to be considered, especially to... it will have implications on pakistan. if you quit in 2014, whatever has been declared, obviously the best strategy for the taliban or the enemy, al qaeda and taliban, is to lie...
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>> roger, control. >> let me give you an example in southern afghanistan. so if you look at where the majority of the population is... >> narrator: the military leadership says there is no contradiction between protecting the afghan population and kill/capture operations. >> we've undertaken, you know, roughly 3,000 operations in the last 90 days, so this is an unprecedented op tempo here in afghanistan in these types of operations. >> narrator: according to major general john nicholson, kill/capture missions create space in which conventional troops can improve security. >> by maintaining the initiative against the enemy, that enables the majority of the force to focus on securing the population, so the two are essential and complementary. if we did not have this level of operational tempo with special operating forces, then it would be tougher for our conventional forces to secure the population. ( shouting and gunfire ) >> narrator: conventional forces across afghanistan are fighting hard to secure the major population centers. ( gunfire ) >> see the wom
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you have been to afghanistan. this was your sixth tour. and you had two tours in iraq. >> actually, it was my fifth tour. i've been back since. >> jon: you've been back to afghanistan for another tour since you were wounded? >> yes. >> jon: you're luke skywalker. that's who you are. that's what this is. [cheering and applause] that's who you are. that's unbelievable. all right. so now you have been wounded in both legs. you've got... these are younger fellas. they're looking to you for leadership. are you still functioning in a capacity in that moment? >> yes. >> jon: how is that possible? is it training? is it just there's a certain something in you that wouldn't give up? >> it's training and it's the fact that we're all brothers out there, and you wouldn't... just like i wouldn't give up on one of my children, i wouldn't give up on my brothers. and that's this way i looked at it out there. and the way a bird takes care of it young one, feeds them until they can grow and hopes that they become good leaders. >> jon: right. >> it's just men
you have been to afghanistan. this was your sixth tour. and you had two tours in iraq. >> actually, it was my fifth tour. i've been back since. >> jon: you've been back to afghanistan for another tour since you were wounded? >> yes. >> jon: you're luke skywalker. that's who you are. that's what this is. [cheering and applause] that's who you are. that's unbelievable. all right. so now you have been wounded in both legs. you've got... these are younger fellas. they're...
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president obama's surge in afghanistan worked pretty well. everyone agreed we were going to draw down. i'm worried he's drawing down too fast and abruptly. i wish he followed general petraeus' recommendation but everybody agrees we'll be out of the combat portion of it by 2014. >> jon: as a country, do you feel like this is proof positive that our whole mentality about fighting the war on terror has been wrong for 10 years? would you say now-- would you-- would you stand and face the camera and say-- and-- and-- button your coat-- and say, oh, my god. i had this so completely wrong, guys. >> no. >> jon: bout butt how can-- >> the whole country has been engaged in this. and i think on the whole doing the right thing. look, a war-- a world in which americans have to fight and have to be, in effect, the kind of world policemen is a difficult world for us. god knows we all hate to see young american men and women go over there and fight and get wounded and die. on the other hand, a world in which we don't do that is a more dangerous world. >> jon
president obama's surge in afghanistan worked pretty well. everyone agreed we were going to draw down. i'm worried he's drawing down too fast and abruptly. i wish he followed general petraeus' recommendation but everybody agrees we'll be out of the combat portion of it by 2014. >> jon: as a country, do you feel like this is proof positive that our whole mentality about fighting the war on terror has been wrong for 10 years? would you say now-- would you-- would you stand and face the...
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it provides a window into understanding the future of afghanistan. amid wally carsi karzai was rut with troops not supporting his brother, cutting them off from any aid. he gave the american and brid tisch forces information on hostile tribes, provided crucial intelligence on key groups and militants. he was the first afghan leader to begin talking with the taliban about ceasefires and their entry in the government. in other words, he was a practical deal maker. now, he was famous in the west or notorious for the corruption that surrounded him. but corruption surrounded all of the billions of dollars in american and western military aid and spending being brought into afghanistan. everyone in afghanistan was corrupt. amid karzai was an ally and effective deal maker. a journalist recalls he was a wheeler dealer in the classic afghan mode. but if tefs a rogue, he was a loveable rogue who charmed you, one way of doing political business in afghanistan. karzai's death reminds us it is the kind of political business he excelled at that we need urgently. t
it provides a window into understanding the future of afghanistan. amid wally carsi karzai was rut with troops not supporting his brother, cutting them off from any aid. he gave the american and brid tisch forces information on hostile tribes, provided crucial intelligence on key groups and militants. he was the first afghan leader to begin talking with the taliban about ceasefires and their entry in the government. in other words, he was a practical deal maker. now, he was famous in the west...
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first up, president obama faced critical decisions on the debt and afghanistan the last few weeks and all the while the geniuses who ran his 2008 campaign have been huddled with their maps and polls, figuring out how to put together a repeat victory. what's the anatomy of a re-election win for obama. he has 4-5, 81% of the people who voted for him last night according to a june nbc poll. what happened to the other 20% of obama's 2008 voters and how does he win them back? let's look at three skenl elements in the anatomy of the obama electorate. in the 2008 exit polls, obama got 66% of voters under 30. now he has just 56% of the under 30's. good? maybe not good enough. another key in the anatomy, suburban voters. any 08 exit polls, 50% of suburbanites went for obama. now he's down to 141%. final will laveragee pin in the obama win n '08 he had 52% of independents. now he has just 43% of independents. john, you wrote game changer about how he did it last time. how do they put, the geniuses out there in chicago and washington, humenty dumpty together again? >> they will be happy to hear
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( laughter ) >> look, in afghanistan, we helped drive the soviets out of there. we pulled out of there in 89, 90 91. we know what happened in the next 10 years, the people in expwafg in terms of 9/11. i don't think we want to go through that again. if that means we have to keep 100,000 troops there forever, it's a war that was underresourced under president bush. president obama did the right thing, i think, in surging there and i think we can draw down as long as we do so responsibly. it's not easy, though, and there's no one solution for each part of the world, obviously. but we can't turn our backs on the world, jon. i know you would like to. i don't want to fight a strawman here. >> jon: i'm very fond of the world. ( laughter ) i don't want people to get hurt-- >> and the world is very fond of you. >> jon: right now, the military and military families are bearing an overwhelming weight of these wars, and it's not fair what they're going through, and i just feel like we have to come up way whole new strategy, that's all. ( applause ) i'm always happy to have y
( laughter ) >> look, in afghanistan, we helped drive the soviets out of there. we pulled out of there in 89, 90 91. we know what happened in the next 10 years, the people in expwafg in terms of 9/11. i don't think we want to go through that again. if that means we have to keep 100,000 troops there forever, it's a war that was underresourced under president bush. president obama did the right thing, i think, in surging there and i think we can draw down as long as we do so responsibly....
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my brother did a tour of afghanistan. it's difficult if you look at it, are we winning from what you are seeing there? >> we are on a plane with human remains and an american flag draped over a casket. at that point, no. at that point you say no, it's not worth it at all. then, you know, you start to analyze it and look through history, there's a lot of people that died to make our country free and other countries around the world to help out other countries. war is never a good thing, but i think it's necessary. >> when you travel around europe, asia and other countries, not many americans do. when you do, what do you think the perception of your country is? >> misunderstood. we took a lot of flak. maybe some of it just for the iraq war. a lot of things bush did. i wasn't in bush's shoes. i don't know what that was like. they kind of looked down. i think they forget. that's what gets me angry. people forget the first time there's a natural disaster in the world, who is the first to send money? it's our tax dollars. when
my brother did a tour of afghanistan. it's difficult if you look at it, are we winning from what you are seeing there? >> we are on a plane with human remains and an american flag draped over a casket. at that point, no. at that point you say no, it's not worth it at all. then, you know, you start to analyze it and look through history, there's a lot of people that died to make our country free and other countries around the world to help out other countries. war is never a good thing,...
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nato also says an explosion killed three service members in eastern afghanistan. this morning. >>> still ahead today on "way too early," if you still have a knot in your stomach from yesterday's world cup finals match between u.s. and japan, you're certainly not the only one. we'll show you the full heart-breaking highlights if you missed them ahead in sports. >>> plus, what happens when you combine an outdoor blues con certified with 60-mile-an-hour winds? a stage collapse in ottawa. this was insane. it sent concert goers and the band running for their lives. it's all coming up with "way too early." about nine hours later mary jo's body was found in kennedy's car in the water off a bridge and the car pulled out of the water. about an hour after that, kennedy told the police chief he had been driving when the car went off the bridge. ...was it something big? ...or something small? ...something old? ...or something new? ...or maybe, just maybe... it's something you haven't seen yet. the 2nd generation of intel core processors. stunning visuals, intelligent performa
nato also says an explosion killed three service members in eastern afghanistan. this morning. >>> still ahead today on "way too early," if you still have a knot in your stomach from yesterday's world cup finals match between u.s. and japan, you're certainly not the only one. we'll show you the full heart-breaking highlights if you missed them ahead in sports. >>> plus, what happens when you combine an outdoor blues con certified with 60-mile-an-hour winds? a stage...
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take our enemies from the stone-age villages in afghanistan, fly them halfway across the world and drop them into an extra governmental space, neither american nor the battlefield. herein using unchecked executive power in an act of blistering self-critical texturalization, not to mention some of those guys look like they got wrapped up by cristo. so i say, forget marine abromovich, forget lori anderson, the greatest performance artists of our generation are these two guys. we'll be right back. [applause] is this a good deal? i don't even know anymore. [ tapping ] well, know this -- for a good deal on car insurance, progressive snapshot uses this to track my good driving habits. the better i drive, the more i save. it's crystal-clear savings and only progressive has it. nice. this has been a public savings announcement. out there with a better way. now, that's progressive. >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is a pulitzer prize winning journalist who recently admitted he's an illegal immigrant, so i will pay him half of the nothing i pay my guests. please welcome jose
take our enemies from the stone-age villages in afghanistan, fly them halfway across the world and drop them into an extra governmental space, neither american nor the battlefield. herein using unchecked executive power in an act of blistering self-critical texturalization, not to mention some of those guys look like they got wrapped up by cristo. so i say, forget marine abromovich, forget lori anderson, the greatest performance artists of our generation are these two guys. we'll be right back....
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it is a president who made decisions with respect to afghanistan. in fact we were under resourced and didn't str strategy and direction and tripled the number of troops there and now we are seeing in a position to take down the numbers. it is a president who has had the united states in the lead in terms of counterterrorism. it is a president who, in europe, for example, we had a summit last november. where the president led the effort on missile defense, on getting a common way forward in afghanistan, on a new concept for europe and alternate work there. it is a president who took the lead on taking the g-20 and making it the premier and principle global financial management agency in the world. time after time i have seen the president come in the situation room and i have been in there hundreds of times and sit down and make these kinds of decisions where american is leading and again the entire effort here is to have america restore its influence and power and authority in the world. of course, i also had the privilege of working closely with th
it is a president who made decisions with respect to afghanistan. in fact we were under resourced and didn't str strategy and direction and tripled the number of troops there and now we are seeing in a position to take down the numbers. it is a president who has had the united states in the lead in terms of counterterrorism. it is a president who, in europe, for example, we had a summit last november. where the president led the effort on missile defense, on getting a common way forward in...
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me being over there in afghanistan and me being here, one of the worst feelings ever. she hasn't always been there for me. it's void in my life. i did get one letter from her and i was really surprised. i must have read it 10, 15 time she told me she was proud of me. my whole life i always tried to make her proud. always tried to do my best in sports, tried looking the best, dressing nice. i joined the marine corps just for her just to get her to be proud of me for once, make me think she would stay out of trouble if she was proud of her son and not go back to jail so many times, just for me once, but it seems like she always goes back to her life and she chooses her life over me and that's always been the hardest part. >> i love you, baby. i worry so much. sit down. hello. how are you? >> i'm good. how are you? >> better now that i see you. i worry about you very much. i'm sorry i'm not there. >> it's okay. >> when are you going overseas again? >> i don't know yet. >> you don't know. i see the news all the time, you know, things that are happening over there, you see
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barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to know will they get paid and will their families be taken care of. this is just the beginning because now with all the talk in washington about money, money, money, the pentagon itself is right in the cross hairs. the pentagon spend nearly $700 billion a year on wars, fighter jets, bombings and bullets. rich target to cut spending to reduce the deficit. president obama's incoming top military advisor is playing ball to an extent. >> if we don't show we recognize that the nation has a significant economic problem and then do our part whatever that part may be t
barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to...
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troops in afghanistan when the taliban attack. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. a special gathering to tackle america's serious economic problems. key figures from government, business and academia came together this week in chicago for the clinton global might be difference america conference. the event was the brainchild of former president bill clinton. i sat down with him in chicago for a candid interview on the country's debt crisis, the 2012 presidential race, and much more. >> mr. president, thanks very much for joining us. good to be here. first time you've done this as far as the u.s. economy is concerned. normally it's global issues. and i want to get to that, but let's talk about some of the big issues right now. jobs, jobs, jobs. it's a crisis, a game of chicken going on in washington right now between the president, the did democrats on one side, republican leadership on the other side. how big of a deal is this august 2nd deadlin
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we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think that there's a lot of evidence that this is the beginning of that process. i have, ever since 9/11 been in the middle of this conversation about can we get along? in every one of those conversations people say where are the muslim moderates? i don't hear them. here they are. this is a group of people standing up. it doesn't say the fundamentalists have gone away. clearly they have not. they're in color of iran and hezbollah and hamas and the wahhabis are still out there. what we're seeing for the first time is the rise of this other story. and it's going to give people a clear choic
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nick payton walsh, cnn afghanistan. here at quicken loans, we like to go the extra mile for our clients. with the wassman family, it was 2,500 extra miles. we're the wassman family from skagway, alaska. livin' so far out and not havin' a bank within 90 miles... i was runnin' into dead ends. happened to come across quicken loans online. [ chris ] walked over to the computer... i was able to see all the paperwork. while i was on the phone, i was able to go through the checklist. [ kathy ] they were quick and efficient. quicken loans is definitely engineered to amaze. they were just really there for us. [♪...] >> male announcer: now, for a limited time, your companion flies free, plus save up to 65%. call 1-800-sandals. conditions apply. >>> it seems everyone had a reaction to the casey anthony verdict. here's cnn's jeanne moos. >> reporter: it only took two words to finally get a smile out of casey anthony. but not guilty was not music to everyone's ears. from nancy grace -- >> the devil is dancing tonight. >> to the ca
nick payton walsh, cnn afghanistan. here at quicken loans, we like to go the extra mile for our clients. with the wassman family, it was 2,500 extra miles. we're the wassman family from skagway, alaska. livin' so far out and not havin' a bank within 90 miles... i was runnin' into dead ends. happened to come across quicken loans online. [ chris ] walked over to the computer... i was able to see all the paperwork. while i was on the phone, i was able to go through the checklist. [ kathy ] they...
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commander in afghanistan. he was testifying on capitol hill this week, and i want to play you part of what he said and basically his position is he supports the president's withdrawal plan. here is a little of what he said. >> this reality sends a important message as well as a sense of urgency that afghans must take more responsibility for their security. >> so you have said to follow the lead of the commanders on the ground this is the soon-to-be commander on the ground. shouldn't that make you feel a little better. he thinks this can work? >> candy, i hope it will work. most people would tell you it's an unnecessary risk. i fully expect general allen will salute and carry out their mission the best that they can. but the fact is there is no recommendation by any military person to have this early withdrawal, and it's an unne unnecessa unnecessary risk. we're told in the villages that the afghans are now wondering if we are leaving or not, and that can undermined the whole effort and sacrifice that has been
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taxpayer money may be missing in afghanistan. our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is here with the details. chris, how is this possible? >> reporter: because of a complete failure of oversight on the parts of the departments of treasury, state and defense, just a complete corruption in afghanistan. look, this federal audit shows that ten years into this war, the u.s. still only has limited visibility over what happens to billions of dollars once we send the money to afghanistan. the inspector general says that makes the money vulnerable not only to fraud but even worse being diverted to insurgents. the u.s. spent more than $70 billion on security and redevelopment in afghanistan, but, again, this audit shows as much as $10 million may be smuggled out of afghanistan every day. how does that happen? whenever afghan government officials leave the country no one checks how much money they are carrying with them. again the audit shows afghan officials have no plans to scan their cash through those electronic currency counters. t
taxpayer money may be missing in afghanistan. our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is here with the details. chris, how is this possible? >> reporter: because of a complete failure of oversight on the parts of the departments of treasury, state and defense, just a complete corruption in afghanistan. look, this federal audit shows that ten years into this war, the u.s. still only has limited visibility over what happens to billions of dollars once we send the money to afghanistan. the...
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you fly a lot to afghanistan and iraq to play for the troops. it means a lot to you. are you a traditional republican? >> no. >> because you seem complicated politically. you are not either one or the other, really? you are more for your country than for party. >> i'm like the majority of people we don't want bible thumpers running the country and we don't want pot-smoking hippies running it. you know, there's a middle ground there that i think most of the around the world are. hey, chill out, man. let's try to figure this out and give people the opportunities and the tools to, what we say, live the american dream, and i know there's some things wrong on both sides. not i would sway belief-wise more republican and less government and creating opportunity. you know, if you had to strictly say, one of those, yes, would i sway a little bit more that way and then i would sway left on, you know, other issues. >> do you think the wars in afghanistan and iraq have been just wars? >> you know, that's tough to say. when you get into politics, i know this much. i don't study po
you fly a lot to afghanistan and iraq to play for the troops. it means a lot to you. are you a traditional republican? >> no. >> because you seem complicated politically. you are not either one or the other, really? you are more for your country than for party. >> i'm like the majority of people we don't want bible thumpers running the country and we don't want pot-smoking hippies running it. you know, there's a middle ground there that i think most of the around the world...
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. >> let's take a look at afghanistan, as a piece of that. under bush, we had about 30,000 troops there. that was tripled during the obama administration. so two-thirds of the cost of afghanistan was put into place under obama. >> hang on, hang on, hang on, it wasn't president obama that took america into war in afghanistan. >> you asked for percentage. >> i'm talking about if you analyze the percentage of blame here, then surely you have to go back to decisions that were taken which helped collectively to create this crisis. although you keep presenting other arguments, give me a straight percentage. what percentage of blame, as we stand here today, should be apportioned to republican decision making? >> well, again, you just asked about a number and i said of the cost of the afghan war, the whole afghan war today -- >> why are you avoiding my question. >> is $20 billion. i'm trying to give you a percentage of for instance the afghan war, two-thirds of the cost there this year was put in by obama. that's one piece of the puzzle. >> but 100%
. >> let's take a look at afghanistan, as a piece of that. under bush, we had about 30,000 troops there. that was tripled during the obama administration. so two-thirds of the cost of afghanistan was put into place under obama. >> hang on, hang on, hang on, it wasn't president obama that took america into war in afghanistan. >> you asked for percentage. >> i'm talking about if you analyze the percentage of blame here, then surely you have to go back to decisions that...